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    Giving the students what they want: Short, to-the-point e-lectures

    Mark E. Ott
    Jackson Community College
    http://www.docott.com

    This presentation discusses two methods of web lecturing: podcasting and screencasting. What are the pros and cons of each? What is the best approach for students? Podcasting is starting to catch on as a way to deliver class lectures, but screencasts containing slides, onscreen examples, and an audio track covering the core lecture material may be more helpful for students as a way to reinforce the classroom experience.

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    17 Responses to “Giving the students what they want: Short, to-the-point e-lectures”

    Dan Karleen Says:

    Perhaps someone would care to respond further to Ian’s comment today about screencasting: http://syndicateblog.petersons.com/wordpress/index.php/highered-blogcon-day1-podcasting-and-screencasting-in-the-classroom/#comment-673

    Elizabeth Townsend Gard Says:

    The talk was really interesting. I was particularly interested in how you use the screencasts as review of the exam.

    One question I had was whether you worry that students will only focus on the small portions of the screencast — is there any problem of continuity by breaking up the lecture into segments?

    The other question I have is how has screencasting changed your choice of materials, including textbooks, etc. Do you see any restrictions on their use? If so, how have you gotten around it?

    Thanks!

    Elizabeth

    Holly Peterson Says:

    Mark,

    I found your presentation very interesting. I think one of the strongest arguments for screencasting over podcasting also has to do with learning styles. For students who are primarily visual (vs. aural) learners, podcasting can be very difficult. Screencasting, on the other hand, works for both visual and aural learners - allowing them to see and hear the material. You touched on this, but I wanted to make that explicit point.

    Thanks.
    Holly Peterson
    World Learning

    Mark Ott Says:

    I seem to be having this conversation (screencasting vs. podcasting) with several people, including middle level managers in major publishing houses. I should play up the ‘learning style’ angle a little more. It is a current buzzword, and it has appropriate use here. :)

    The choice of what is included in each screencast is thought out. They are really only 1 or maybe 2 concepts, so no real reason they would only watch a small portion of it.

    The textbook comment you made (Elizabeth) is a good one. I have realized that when my students are studying for the fexams, they are more apt to watch the screencast than read the textbook. They didn’t use it much before, and are using it less now.
    Because of that, I have gone back and rethought (quite a bit) what I put on each and every slide of my lecture/screencast. I have made huge improvements, just this semester. Granted I make small changes every semester, getting better examples and such, but never to this magnitude. I can truly say doing this operationhas made me a much better instructor. My students have a comfortable enough relationship with me that they can tell me what works and what doesn’t, all the way down to specific examples.

    Another issue is the concept of copyright. I have to go and remove all the proprietary material I used to use in my lecture slides (tables, figures) as these are all online, available to the world. That has made me become a more efficient user of PowerPoint, for sure, including motion paths.

    Yet another idea is that a set of these screencast could do the job of any textbook. Why do we have one (in sciences) in the first place? To provide an alternate explanation of the material? Why use long-winded text and picture containing tool only (which is hard for this generation to use) when we can use short and sweet text, pictures and audio (which is the kindof of learners they are) instead?

    Michael Gowin Says:

    Mark–

    Thanks for sharing your insights here. I’d like to offer a couple comments and then a question.

    First, as we’ve used the term “podcasting” at our school, we’ve taken it to mean any recorded audio content posted to the Web (or a LMS) and/or made available via RSS. As defined in your presentation, podcasting refers to recording a live lecture. We’ve used it in this sense as well but also in the sense that an instructor might record audio notes for students in the privacy of his or her office. This would avoid all of the pauses, discussion, and questions that you cited as drawbacks of recording a live lecture.

    Second, a screencast (as defined in your presentation) can also be created as an “enhanced podcast.” With software like Profcast (see http://www.profcast.com/public/index.php), instructors can embed PowerPoint slides into an audio file. These are viewable in iTunes and on newer iPods. One great advantage of this approach is that the software creates markers in the audio file for each slide, thus making it easy to find specific topics within a presentation. Unfortunately, Profcast is available only for the Mac; no Windows equivalent exists yet (although the files can be played in iTunes for Windows).

    Lastly, this leads me to a question for you and the larger community. How do you (and your school, IT, ET departments and any others who are involved in the process) determine what tools to use to create content? Is it simply up to the instructor? Or are certain tools recommended/required/supported by IT/ET? Because we have a few Macs but mostly Windows machines on our campus, we don’t all have access to the same content creation tools. As such, an instructor on a Mac might use Profcast to create enhanced podcasts that can be viewed in iTunes or an iPod, while another might be using Camtasia Studio on Windows to create Flash slideshows that are viewable in the browser. For the students, does the plurality of options become an impediment to the learning process? Should campuses strive to limit content output options?

    Library Views 圖書館觀點 Says:

    HigherEd BlogCon 2006:Podcasting 及 Screencasting

    先前 曾介紹過的 HigherEd BlogCon 2006 已經在4月3日開始展開。雖然關於圖書資訊的場次在4月10日才開始,但其他主題的內容也很值得一看。

    Giving the students what they want: Short, to-the-point e-lectures

    Mark Ott Says:

    Michael -
    Your comments regarding my language are well taken. I did state that I was referring only to web lecturing, as in traditional ‘lecture’ content. And also remember, I am coming from a hard science. Podcasting (audio only) of other disciplines might be just fine. (History, or sociology for example) As with any new term, it gets redefined by everyone who uses it. I will try to make myself a little clearer next time. Thanx. Honestly, the number of people at my college who are doing any podcasting at all I can count on 1 hand. Getting ‘buy in’ here from the faculty has been difficult. Those that have done anything have only posted a select few (<5) episodes. I am far a head of the curve with 2 whole semesters worth of material posted.
    Since so few of use are doing anything just yet, our IT department only supports Camtasia. I could see, however, that some consistency needs to exist, for the same reason that everyone at one institution should agree on what word processing program to use.
    I produce my videos in two formats, the flash version (requiring a live internet connection) and I post a version on video.google.com. I do that for a few reasons, namely there the students can download the file if they wish, and also, all the screencasts are then searchable (try searching for 'electronegativity' at google video to see what I mean). I talk more about where to post what (and why) at my education blog: www.docott.com/education

    JeanClaude Says:

    Concerning the different options to deliver material, I have found that students appreciate being able to access the lectures different ways and so I have tried to make it available in as many formats as is reasonable. mp3, pdf, ppt, m4v, Flash, avi, transcript. A student on the train might use their video ipod or write notes on the pdf slides while listening to the lectures on ipod or CD player. Another student might skim the transcript and only watch the streaming Flash screencast at relevant points if they have online access.

    Ric Jensen Says:

    Recently, I’ve begun taking video with a webcam, importing it to Camtasia, and then posting those files to a distance education web server. We need to visually stimulate young learners and show them we are tech-savvy.

    Mark Pearson Says:

    I can see how screencast lectures may be superficially more attractive than podcasts — either audio only or enhanced with ‘chapters’ (and, by the way, a podcast is more than just an audio file on a web site, much more). But we’re still talking about one way lecturing; transmitting ‘content’ from teacher to student. How could one have students engage more closely in this process? Here I would posit that an audio podcast (.mp3, .aac, etc) has more ‘remix’ possibilities than a flash fomat screencast. An idea which I will try out in my next class will involve students either taking the audio lecture and adding their own summary slides to make an enhanced podcast (using Garageband) or using prepared slides and adding their own audio track of commentary (using G’band again). This way the students will have to interact with material closely in order to produce their own multimedia creation.

    Beth Ritter-Guth Says:

    Thanks for the information; I am totally sold on the screencasting over podcasting concept. Even in English, I think screencasting makes more sense. For example, I review comma rules about 20 times a day; it make so much more sense for me to screen cast those rules.

    I also think it is wise to give students as many options as possible to access material.

    Mark Ott Says:

    Mark,

    What will you have the stduents do with their re-produced multimedia creation? Is it submitted for a grade? What is their incentive? For many students the technology barrier would be high, and the net educational experience would be low. I’ll be honest, I still have students who say ‘I am afraid of computers’. As sad as that is, we have to understand that as a legitimate hinderance to some students.

    Wikis are another method (and much less technology-heavy) to get two way learning taking place.

    I love the idea of somehow forcing the stduents to ‘teach’ the material in some way to reinforce the concepts in their own minds, but everything I try seems to come down to them just repeating the words I use as a teacher, which shows that they are good at memorizing things and bad at understanding deep concepts.

    Kim Gregson Says:

    I like the idea of the mini lectures. The students can fit them in around other activities and review for exams from them. I have been trying to figure out how to get some bits of lecture out of class to free up more time for activities and discussion (engaging with the material rather than passively being exposed). Students are always asking if i’ll put hte powerpoint notes online (normally I don’t because as static files they’re not very useful). I think if i made these short screen casts of the basic topics and put them online - that would actually be useful.

    I also need some way to offer some guidance to students new to reading academic research articles and i think some on screen prompts with an intro little lecture about some of the early-in-the-semester readings might be the kind of help I want to offer.

    Alan Gerstle Says:

    From what I can discern about this blog is that it is another mindless forum in which technology of teaching is reified without a concern with what is worth learning or what is worth teaching or in fact whether anyone learns anything in school. It also seems to use the terms ‘learning style’ and ‘learning technologies’ as though such terms have any explanatory power. Meanwhile, higher education continues on its road to being a big business or being an adjunct to business. Why don’t you get real?

    Jin An Says:

    Hi everyone, greetings from Happy Valley (Penn State, University Park, PA).

    As a relatively large organization, PSU is slowly starting to get into these technologies. I am involved in a podcasting pilot, so I had a few comments.

    I feel that the main advantage of a podcast has not been communicated on the screencast or comments, so I’ll put it out there: portability/convenience. Laura Guertin, an instructor at a PSU commuter campus (Delaware), has had success using podcasts for that primary reason. People can listen to podcasts (audio only) while doing other things (jogging/driving/taking the bus/etc).

    One immediate concern: How long does it take to do post-production on your content? Our faculty is heavily involved in research, so I’m not sure if they are able to put in that much time outside of class to “repeat” the lecture.

    Overall, I was very impressed by the creative use of screencasts. I guess I’d just reiterate what everyone is saying: it truly depends on the content. It works wonderfully for the hard sciences with many equations, illustrations, etc; on the other hand, a simple podcast might work well for a Music history class (if only we didn’t have to deal w/ all the copyright issues, I think podcasts would be used VERY WIDELY in music instruction).

    Maryann Carol Says:

    Mark, excellent presentation. I’m amazed that “technically” this sort of screen-capturing technology has been around since the early 90’s (remember Lotus ScreenCam?) but we had to put the files on CD because they were so large. We even tried to put those giant AVIs into Flash to make SWF’s but the whole process was clunky. Now Camtasia makes it easy!

    About Jin’s question on post-production time… it’s true that many faculty might not have enough time outside of class to “repeat” the lecture in the quiet of their offices. At Atlantic Cape CC, we’re piloting having an instructor record her lectures live, while she’s in the classroom, then assigning one of our media techs to “clean up”, where appropriate, things like dead air or time wasted on technical glitches. It’s taking only about 2-3 hours to clean up and post each 50-minute lecture.

    What I can’t figure out is how to capture student comments or discussion that can (and often is) useful to the flow of the learning, without having to make the instructor repeat everything for the benefit of the microphone. I don’t want to “choreograph” the instructor so tightly that she can’t be flexible (”OK, for the first 15 minutes, just lecture, no questions, then ask for questions HERE, and then….” :-)

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Jin An Says:

    I think that capturing the student discussions can be part of the post-production if another mic pointed the room is used. Of course this brings complications with two signals having to be mixed, etc.

    The reason I bring up that suggestion is because I have heard about podcasts being recorded only using iPod + iTalk (someone from Utah State presented at the Philadelphia Area Education Technology Conference). She mentioned that with the proper filtering/post-production, she was able to pick up the presenter and comments/ questions from a 100+ audience room with that mic alone.

    If someone can truly dedicate 2-3 hours to post-production, then a simple iPod + iTalk (just a portable recorder) solution can be used to record a second, separate track, which can then be easily mixed in using your software of choice. Again, this seems like a lot of work, since we’re talking about lectures that take place 2-3 times a week.

    Just thinking out loud.